Does anyone know anything about a group called the Yezidis or the Sarmoung Brotherhood? I believe the Sarmoung Brotherhood was a major topic in one of Gurdjieff's books, but does anyone know of a possible connection with the Yezidis in the mountains near Mosul Iraq? I am currently in Erbil, Iraq, about 2 hours away from Mosul, and unfortunately Didn't bring any books by or about Gurdjieff, and amazon.com doesn't seem to deliver into this area. Any help at all would be appreciated.
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Re: The Sarmoung and the Yezidis
Thu, June 2, 2005 - 11:29 PMThis much I know. The Yezidis are an actual religious cult which is based on dualistic Zoroastrian beliefs. They have no connection, whatsoever, with the "Sarmoung" which is a mythical group patterned after Theosophical concepts like the "Great White Bortherhood." Gurdjieff used many mythical paradigms to illustrate his teachings, and the Sarmoung is certainly one of them. J.G. Bennett believed that the "root school" of Gurjieff's teaching was actually the Khwajagan-Naqshbandiyya, remnants of which can still be found in Afghanistan. -
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Wed, November 9, 2005 - 6:56 PMThe Yezidis are a pre-xtian devil worship cult, and their grimoire is The Picatrix. It was a lifework of my artist/bookbinder friend Joel Radcliffe to publish this work, and he did.
www.renaissanceastrology.com/our...html
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 1:49 PMI don't know, if this was published recently then it must be an invented rendition.
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Sun, September 3, 2006 - 2:46 PMThe main problem I see with all this is not the lack of wanting to serach, but rather the lack of self. We are taught so many ideas that if one is to look closer you can see their flaws. The key to living is in learning to die. Total abandon, walking without protection. Not wanting to hold on to these old ideas and concepts but follow ones true nature. Where the heart is there is only truth, and where there is death there are no lies. The powers of the world (life and death) don't judge but only guide. If you are willing to listen. -
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Thu, December 28, 2006 - 10:58 PMSarmoun is the name of a sufi order based around Afghanistan. Sarmoun means "bee" which relates to the idea of knowledge resembling something like a commodity or material substance that can be stored and then released again when various conditions indicate this is right.
You will find various references to the Sarmoun & the Yezidis in books published by Octagon Press or by Idries Shah. See "Among the Dervishes" and other works. -
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Re: The Sarmoung and the Yezidis
Thu, June 21, 2007 - 11:12 AMI joined this tribe solely to reply to this post. (Hi, everyone!)
Years ago, I was a big fan of Idries Shah, Gurdjieff, et al. I might suggest that the Sarmouni are not necessarily a sufi order based around Afghanistan. The Sarmouni are a universal family who operate on a metaphorically invisible level. What I mean to say is, as Idries Shah paraphrased from the sufi tradition:
"The Secret protects itself by virtue of its implausibility."
Just as the so-called "Shamballa Warriors" are mythically connected through a link of telepathic communication, so the Naqshbandiyya are also developed in such type of communication. They are the step before the Khwajagan and finally the universality of the Sarmoun Way. By "universality" I mean to say that in order to be (traditionally) a "sufi" one is pretty much required to go through the rigors of the cultural system of Islam. The Sarmouni, however, do not rely on any cultural form, but cull from the cream of all great mystical traditions minus any artifice of cultural prejudice. And--it is said--that they are interconnected invisibly through this telepathic connection, thereby, the "inivisibility" of it all. Nonetheless, the pattern is distinguishable within reality itself, if one is sensitized enough to perceive it.
Years and years ago, I quite by accident obtained a pamphlet called "The Greater Sufism." This book referred precisely to this property of universality, yet made no written reference to the Sarmouni. However--interestingly, and quite mysteriously--on the back of the pamphlet was a symbol: it was an enneagram with the image of a bee emblazoned upon it.
One really fascinating point is that there is a source right on the internet to the Sarmoun Way, but it's so outrageous and implausible that most people pass it off as a crock of proverbial shit. But again, the secret protects itself by its own implausibility.
Another interesting place to look is Oscar Ichazo's Arica Way. The Hexagonal design in his "Universal Logos" is a reference to the beehive, I believe. The cells in a beehive are hexagonal.
(Just as a silly side-note, if you do a google image search on the words "Saturn" and "Hexagon" you'll discover some remarkable pictures of of the planet Saturn, and the strange hexagonal shape that was discovered on its southern pole. Scientists are in duh-mode about it, not knowing how it possibly could have been formed naturally. )
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Re: The Sarmoung and the Yezidis
Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:17 PMHello, I joined this tribe solely to ask a question to this reply to this topic. Inquiring minds want to know what the outrageous and implausible website is, or where it can be found. -
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Re: The Sarmoung and the Yezidis
Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:31 PMWhen you're ready - they'll contact you ;-) -
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Re: The Sarmoung and the Yezidis
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 9:33 PMI think it's the other way around: when your ready ...you contact them
And they allow you in to their secret world for a short time..and then they kick you out. -
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Re: The Sarmoung and the Yezidis
Wed, May 14, 2008 - 10:15 PMThat is if you believe they are angels or a fountain of esoteric knowledge that can communicate or union with your mind when it is ready. ....non local....disembodied.....maybe an alien intelligence that enters into us and pushes the ego aside for a short time to expose the deeper mysteries of existence...In the hopes that this should act as a guide in our art, relationships and day to day lives. Or maybe its just our own super intellectual abilities waking up for only a moment? -
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 3:16 AMYou really already know the answers to these questions - don't you? -
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Re: The Sarmoung and the Yezidis
Thu, May 15, 2008 - 8:24 AMsorry, I know that was off topic... but, couldn't resist. -
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Re: The Sarmoung and the Yezidis
Thu, May 15, 2008 - 10:14 AMsome days we cant help ourselves
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Re: The Sarmoung and the Yezidis
Sun, July 13, 2008 - 2:20 PMThese guys may have more information, I have asked them questions in the recent past and they have been very forthcoming:
www.bradfordgurdjieffsociety.org
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Re: The Sarmoung and the Yezidis
Mon, July 14, 2008 - 9:27 AMThe Yezidis were a breakaway tribe. They were excorciated by other groups as proptiating Satan... not as Evil One, but as a fallen angel, restored by God to rule Earth.
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