So. . .what groups have you worked with? What have been the most productive in terms of growth?
In the "fourth way" tradition, I have worked with several groups. One, a very small group under the auspices of Chalice Circle, was the most fruitful for me. The woman who faciliated this group, Edith Wallace (who passed a few years ago) was perhaps the most "awake" individual I've ever met. I have also worked with the G. Foundation and a few others.
How about you? What was the first group and what induced you to work with others?
In the "fourth way" tradition, I have worked with several groups. One, a very small group under the auspices of Chalice Circle, was the most fruitful for me. The woman who faciliated this group, Edith Wallace (who passed a few years ago) was perhaps the most "awake" individual I've ever met. I have also worked with the G. Foundation and a few others.
How about you? What was the first group and what induced you to work with others?
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Re: Group Work
Fri, March 30, 2007 - 8:58 PMGuitar Craft is a circle of guitarists with varying degrees of experience but all have the common aim of improving one's functioning as applied to the guitar. Robert Fripp started the school in 1986 and it still meets in groups as the need demands. Although not specificallly a Fourth Way school it is as real a tradition as one can find. As you may or may not know Fripp attended JG Bennett's Sherbourne House residencies in the early '70's.
I will let Fripp speak for Guitar Craft: (and definitely check out the Monographs)
www.guitarcraft.com/
My experience with Fripp was when I was 21 attending a GC course at a private camp in Malibu CA. in 1988.
I went in to see Fripp for my 10 minutes of individual tuition per day with this question:
What can you show me about myself that I don't already know?
This was a question aimed directly at my unconsciousness.
Fripp countered my inquiry with this: How do you hold your pick?
I responded by lifting my nervously shaking hand up for our inspection. I wasn't sure how I held my pick. It had not been an important question until now.
I tried to imitate what the GC instructors had shown us. My results were not so good; it wasn't so much the positioning of the pick in my fingers as how (add italics) I held the pick--who was the person nervously shaking from fear of his technical and personal inadequacies being exposed in front of his guitar god. I looked up...
And then WHOOSH!!!
I was suddenly in the REAL WORLD. I felt true elation, completely unexpected, exalted in power and glory and the magnificence of a presence supremely divine.
I floated up and up into a rarified heavenly light, but my own denial, my utter disbelief that this could be happening to me, that such a thing could even exist, was such a challenge to my limited idea of self, that those thoughts--and the need to transform them--brought me back to earth.
I came back to my body outside (italics) of Fripp's office: I don't remember leaving the room.
I was immediately overwhelmed with emotion: I realized I had fallen, or had been lost from, this experience, this whole DIMENSION of my self. I felt embarrassment, terror, anger, but mostly heartbreak, that I hadn't even realized the depth of my own loss until now.
What the Heaven Was THAT?And why here? at Guitar Craft Camp? Why Fripp? Who was HE anyway? And Who Am I in light of this new information?
My young mind that had previously known only itself struggled to explain this experience for many years.
I feel I know much more now.
That was but a TASTE.
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Re: Group Work
Sat, March 31, 2007 - 2:10 AMDoesn't Fripp have a snippet of a Bennett lecture on one of his albums? I've always had quite a bit of respect for RF and both his music and philosophy. As a guitarist, I'm really interested in reading more on this. Thanks! -
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Re: Group Work
Sat, March 31, 2007 - 3:23 AMThe League of Gentlemen album has many voiceovers from Bennett's recorded lectures.
Quote from Fripp's on-line diary to give you a taste of how he communicates Craft:
Crafty: By doing nothing here, from what I understand, it becomes more a case of "allowing" the wrist to return. The question then arose, whether one could say that this "allowing" is, in fact, directing a natural reflex of the wrist, which is performing the movement "for you", if you like? Any subsequent, non-initiating release, then is just a further consequence of the reflex.
RF: This allowing is not directing, it is allowing! In your words, this is allowing the wrist to perform the movement for us, while we are holding a pick. We direct the hand to the particular guitar string, and then release it!
Something like, when we are riding a bicycle, we pay attention to pushing down on the pedal. We do not put our concern into directing the foot to rise afterwards the returning foot seems to take care of itself. The analogy is not exact: in cycling, we put effort into the down-pedal; and the returning pedal, driven by the other foot pushing down, lifts the first foot. But the sense of return is very close. (Alexander himself learnt to cycle by watching cyclists, then mounted a bicycle for the first time & rode away!).
With the down stroke, the very words imply an effort that is, properly, not made: the wrist is released, and then it returns. That we are holding a pick, that the hand is placed on the guitar, is seemingly irrelevant to the quality of motion.
The craft of craft is down stroke: we direct the action & do something. This is functional.
The art of craft is release: effortless effort. We do nothing, and while we are doing nothing, a string is picked, a note is played, and then the hand returns to where it was. This is qualitative.
Do you like? Then you will LOVE The League of Crafty Guitarists!
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Re: Group Work
Tue, May 29, 2007 - 9:14 PMThe League of Crafty Guitarists in performance around 1986:
Part 1
www.youtube.com/watch
Part 2:
www.youtube.com/watch
Later Stuff:
www.youtube.com/watch
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Re: Group Work
Sat, March 31, 2007 - 5:21 PMIt is our nature to perceive 'dead people' as the most awake. Funny, isn't it? -
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Re: Group Work
Tue, May 29, 2007 - 7:04 PMTell us more about your experience. . . I'm not sure I agree and am aware that I may benefit from hearing more. Do tell.
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